Thursday, December 6, 2018

Why we left Sahaja Meditation collective

Before stating anything we would like to say, we love our Sahaj family. And we respect all leaders in NIPC and VND who are working hard for Shri Mataji.
It is VND, and DC council, who did everything to ostracize us, because we opposed Sahaja Meditation. They used Walter and some others to attack us. Behind everything is VND. They chose Washingotn DC to as stage, from 2006 to start Sahaja Meditation. and they have officaillt announced successful in Washington DC.


There is no attempt to malign Walter or anyone personally, because it is a big part of big  problem-that is Sahaja Mediation. We have forgiven ourselves and everything 5years ago and moved on. Here we are just stating facts from the past to show why we left Sahaja Meditation collective. 

Since we did not follow Sahaja Mediation, local VND and DC council ostracized us systematically. The outcast is done by local VND and DC Council using Walter. There are many others involved and it is much complicated situation. Just to show some evidence, we used Walter's emails, but it is the problem of Sahaja Meditation created by VND.

We respected collective desire and moved on with Shri Mataji's work. 

Walter was the only person from DC collective who took time to attack us and reacted to our emails from 2010 to support Sahaja Meditation.

Systematically he ostracized us in the collective. He is the only one emailed on behalf of the DC collective. Unfortunately nobody from DC council or local VND opposed him.

We can not prove or show the outcast that we faced or suffered. The sufferings and the pain we turned in to JOY, by doing Shri Mataji's work. 

Why we are bringing past issues now ?

  • To stop NIPC and VND from bringing legal law suit against Maha Yoga.
  • To prove that we are not out of Sahaj Yoga. 
  • To avoid getting outcast again.....
  • To get full freedom and recognition for Maha Yoga organisation 
  • To prove that we have detached ourselves from DC collective because of Sahaja Meditation. 
  • To prove there are no bad intentions or bad motives of MahaYoga
  • To prove that we were forced to move out of the collectivity by Walter, DC council and VND.
  • Because this our spiritual ascent battle
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Walter all the time mentioned that we have sent aggressive emails to collective. Only email we sent to collective where about: inviting collective for PP, updates on PP, Shri Mataji Talks and any updates on SY/SM from google groups. 

click below link for email from one of the Yogini supports our claim. It was sent after the major SM folks attacked us on Feb 16, 2013, at the collective meeting.

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Our emails on Sahaja mediation in USAyogis group

Prasad's clarification on Walter's email

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DC council, imperative, invited themselves to our home,
https://conflictswithsahajameditation.blogspot.com/2018/12/clarification-response-to-post-in.html

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2013 On Feb 16, 2013 , meeting was held in DC. 

Group of yogis from DC collective verbally attacked shouted sorrounding 
Haritha and Prasad,  saying Sahaja Meditation  is our personal problem. 
How dare you post in USAyogis google groups
So below email was sent to all VND council members in USAyogis google group
on Sunday, February 17, 2013 

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He is changed the reason of that meeting. Meeting was held to decide,weather to use Sahaja Meditation or Sahaja Yoga. Then why we became the focal point in that meeting? 

They attacked us because we were writing openly in USA yogis groups, for stating the facts about SM.
See below Feb 18th 2013 email, he said "You have become like Bin Laden"

Click here Walter's emails "You have become like Bin Laden"

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Walter always says Haritha's lie, in many emails
You can find answer about Haritha's lie in the below link, according to Walter, lie is "Haritha said Sahaja Meditation is not my personal problem"

He sent the below email on Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:40 PM

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So in the public group email, Walter apologizes but in personal email he still holding to his comments, "So in comparison my Bin Laden comment was mild. " 
again email Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Again he sends email at 8.19pm this time as a self-appointed lawyer .


Walter this time mentions in his email So in comparison my Bin Laden comment was mild.


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Room Booked with SM name after collective decision about using Sahaja Yoga for collective meetings and Sahaja Yoga meditation for outreach on Feb 18th.

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DC council outcast and refused to address our concerns in future because we 
posted in USAyogis groups.
click here for DC council outcast


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After so many non stop insulting emails, Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:36 AM Prasad emailed to concerned Sahajayogis to address our problem 

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Walter's emailed on April 21st, 2013. He did not stop his stop his hatred emails, he tried to find ways to attack us. 


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Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM Walter's insulted and attacked Haritha in public in front of large audience, posted in ALL groups.

Haritha sent this email on just containing Shri Mataji's talk no personal message


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We sent email to collective for help in US citizenship required event, we did not get any support from the collective. Since we are not US citizens we could not attend those. Sahaja Yoga leader gives reply on behalf of collective for that, please check below his email. 
Since we did not get support from the collective, we prayed to Shri Mataji that either to make US citizens or allow to attend those. Soon after they allowed us to do all events where US citizenship was required. US citizenship requirement was waived for us.

Click here for email :No support from the collective on SY public programs


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Every time Walter jumped in and made us target in collective emails. Though many others did silent outcast, Walter's hatred emails on behalf of council and collective made our life miserable. To protect our Atma's dignity, we had to leave Sahaja Mediation collective. But we did not leave Sahaja Collective, that is what we stated in our announcement email.
we announced in the email, on Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:14 PM, 
So it is been 5 years, and our Journey is still on.....



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Prasad poem about human beings in Hindi

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